mrmadcoil (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Yes, the difference between getting a medical degree and not getting one is a pretty fine hair...Last word is not so last, then? Very well. The montrose chem lawsuit was about 'scientific concern'(the study whose methods C refers to as unacceptable) and 'changing political climate'. At best this is a legal precedent.But once again I must remind you of C's position, even though he SPELLS it out. 'DDT is not a carcinogen.' That is his only stance on the subject. The rest is about policy.

jereuter01 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Sorry, it was DDT I meant to say that it's been a long time....not 2ndHS which there's another video where C goes out on a limb spouting nonsense there too. Bottom line is that DDT and 2ndHS are dangerous!

jereuter01 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Cute that you split such fine hairs...so you agree that he was not a scientist, that's enough for me...there's plenty of folks with music and law degrees who neither play instruments nor practice law. I had to go back a look myself about company name, my apologies it's been awhile since I ran into someone who wanted to argue the dangers of 2ndHS: my apologies try "Montrose Chem lawsuit"

mrmadcoil (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

You didn't say he wasn't a scientist, you said he had no scientific credentials. I've demonstrated that he does. Moving on.As for monsanto, I've found numerous amounts of lawsuits involving them, but not one of the lawsuits concerned DDT. If you think you've found one, go ahead and link to it.

jereuter01 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Mr primary care physician and surgeous and other specialists he send me are not scientists. Ultiomately, it is the law and lawsuits whereby everything in this country gets settled whether or not you like it or not. If you cannot find anything on Monsanto you are an internet research moron. 'Nuff said by me. You can have the last word.

mrmadcoil (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

You said he had no scientific credentials. Medicine is a science. He has a degree. QED.As for DDT, I don't care. I'm not dying of malaria. But really. It's the law? Yeah, that sounds like a great way to settle science. Don't think. IT'S THE LAW!What was the problem with DDT? Overuse. No proven hazard to mammals, but it is known to build up if it is continually ingested. (Halflife of 8 years.)As for monsanto, I've found no reference to any lawsuit regarding DDT.

jereuter01 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I didn't say Crighton had no medical credentials. Those credentials alone do not make a scientist. A primary care physician and surgeon/specialist referrals are not scientists. Crichton was a fabulous author of fiction throughout his life including his years pursuing medical degrees. He was a doctor in name only. You can argue safety of DDT & SHS until blue in the face. You are wrong on the basis of recognized science, public laws & well-known (Monsanto) lawsuits. It is what it is...

mrmadcoil (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Michael Crichton ... attended Harvard University, where he graduated summa cum laude in anthropology. He went on to teach anthropology at Cambridge in England, later returning to Massachusetts to gain an M.D. degree from Harvard Medical School.Crichton then served (1969-70) as a postdoctoral fellow at the Jonas Salk Institute for Biological Science in La Jolla, California, before taking up writing full time. You think medicine has nothing to do with science?Thank you and good night.

AWS12345678910 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

PS: State of Fear is a fantastic book, I've just read it. I was abundantly amused by the fate of the Cleb-u-Tard.

AWS12345678910 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

What you've just told me forces me to dismiss your opinion. I'll assume you have good intentions, and your error is born out of something other than maliciousness.