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mradaChris (September 28, 2008 at 2:44 pm)
This is beautiful!
MerlinTheDraconic (September 22, 2008 at 7:38 pm)
You certainly have a point. I don't deny that the focal pitch is anything we want it to be, however, over the years I have adjusted and "set" myself to A 440 Hertz.
Alfgard1 (September 22, 2008 at 11:56 am)
Who are you? Nothing...
clyfton (September 17, 2008 at 1:05 am)
Cont'd.First of all, I don't have the slightest problem listening to this recording, even though I'm aware of the fact that it's "off-set". And yet I have this "absolute pitch", in much the same way that Merlin was talking about... For you see, this so called "absolute pitch" still relies entirely on the mutual agreement that a certain tone or note has a certain frequency, like A being at 440Hz. It could just as well be 430 or 450, so ANY kind of pitch has to be relative to something! :)
clyfton (September 17, 2008 at 12:59 am)
I don't agree with the idea of absolute pitch being, whithout exception, something that is passed down genetically. Cause what you're saying is basically that it's absolute pitch if it's innate, and relative pitch if it's learned? This isn't true.To the best of my knowledge, I wasn't born with an absolute pitch. However, I am showing signs of both "absolute" and "realtive" pitch, as you call them.
brunosilvershadow (September 15, 2008 at 8:24 pm)
Sorry Mr. Scholl: for this piece Kathleen Ferrier, the great british Contralto remains unreached! Scholl sings beautifully but it is a little artificial. Kathleen Ferrier sings it such as i have to believe her the 'miserere nobis' her breath is remarkable fluent and her musical line has a great character!
fruziakazimierska (September 11, 2008 at 8:11 pm)
This discussion is straying off the point a bit. A propos Scholl and Bach - I find this performance disappointing - it`s slow and ponderous as in the bad old days (before the HIP era that is) - completely lacking in rhetoric. The voice is heavenly but has little merit in terms of interpretation- it`s one-dimensional and superficial, sounding like a grown-up treble, which he just happens to be (Scholl says countertenor is his natural voice).
tenebrousllama (September 8, 2008 at 3:19 am)
my wording was a gross oversimplification. point is, some people are just predisposed to have perfect pitch. it's not something you can learn later in life. you CAN learn relative pitch, with work.
tenebrousllama (September 8, 2008 at 3:14 am)
i played the violin for a bit. so i'm very good at giving A, D, G, and E when asked. :P and then i can find most notes relative to those. my friend can identify chords like that - drives me nuts! :) we'll be hanging out, and all of a sudden we'll hear the ding of the BART train, and she'll tell me it's a G sharp, or whatever it happens to be.
tenebrousllama (September 8, 2008 at 3:11 am)
absolute (perfect) pitch is nature, relative pitch is nurtured. you don't have to have any previous training in music to have perfect pitch - you just do. i'd imagine it's pretty painful, seeing as i don't have perfect pitch, but i do have a good sense of intonation, and that being slightly off drives me up a wall - having perfect pitch and hearing one thing and seeing another must be excruciating. |
